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<title>5 stages of youth ministry</title>
<pubDate>Tue, 9 Mar 2010 17:01:00 -0400</pubDate>
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As I sat the other night at Zaxby&rsquo;s in Bowling Green having dinner with Jordan, our youngest child, who is a freshman at WKU, I began to think through stages of family life and how as youth mini ...
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<dc:creator>Joe Ball</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>As I sat the other night at <a title="zaxby's" href="http://www.zaxbys.com/" target="_self">Zaxby&rsquo;s</a> in Bowling Green having dinner with Jordan, our youngest child, who is a freshman at WKU, I began to think through stages of family life and how as youth ministers we need to be careful to navigate each of these transitions to make them as smooth as possible, and we need to think ahead to the next stage of family life and how that will affect how we do ministry.&nbsp; </p><p><strong>Stage One-</strong>The Bachelor/Bachelorette.&nbsp; A lot of youth ministers get their start in ministry while in college.&nbsp; We stay up late, come and go as we please and live off leftover pizza and Big K cola from the youth events.&nbsp; We think nothing of working late into the night, hanging out at school events, spending money as we want, being gone 6 nights a week and surviving on little or no sleep.&nbsp; As God places in our life a spouse to walk through life with, we need to evaluate this insane schedule and realize that we now have to pay attention to doing ministry together.&nbsp; Trusting God to speak truths into their heart that we may need to hear, and from the beginning making date nights (without students) part of our weekly routine.</p><p><strong>Stage two</strong>-Romper Room. The change from being young and married to married with preschoolers is a huge transition that catches most youth ministry families off guard.&nbsp; Our spouse, who may be used to accompanying us at youth events, teaching Bible studies and hanging out with students regularly, suddenly may find themselves having to stay behind and parent while we are off &ldquo;doing ministry.&nbsp; &nbsp;A lot of good student ministers are lost at this stage because we didn&rsquo;t prepare for the changes that come at this stage of life.</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p><strong>Stage three</strong>- Married with children. Elementary age children want to come to youth events. They like hanging out with the older students and going all the fun places (amusement parks, skiing, hiking, concerts) that make up youth ministry.&nbsp; And there may be ways to incorporate them into some of these activities.&nbsp; Each family has to navigate this stage on their own. In making our choices here care should be taken at this stage not to spoil the youth ministry experience of our children.&nbsp; Here is what I mean.&nbsp; There ought to be some things that you cannot do until you&rsquo;re old enough to do them.&nbsp; We need to weigh carefully how much fun stuff we incorporate our children into, how many concerts, retreats, ballgames they attend so it doesn&rsquo;t become pass&eacute; and lose its excitement before they get their chance to be official participants. </p><p><strong>Stage four</strong>-Parent trap.&nbsp; Probably my favorite stage to this point was this one, the stage where our children were a part of the youth group.&nbsp; I got the privilege of being Karen&rsquo;s youth pastor for all 7 years of her youth ministry experience, and for the first three of Jordan&rsquo;s.&nbsp; It is tricky to navigate.&nbsp; Karen would find it amusing that how on youth trips she would have to yell &ldquo;Joe&rdquo; for me to hear her.&nbsp; It was what the other students called me and &ldquo;daddy&rdquo; didn&rsquo;t seem to get heard in the noise of youth ministry.&nbsp; I had to be careful to not be their parent on youth trips (after all I didn&rsquo;t give any other student money or carry their stuff) and to give them freedom to be teens.&nbsp; Gina and I also decided that some events ought to be optional for our kids.&nbsp; Everyone else&rsquo;s children got to choose if they went on the retreat, to the concert or skiing, why shouldn&rsquo;t ours.&nbsp; After all the ability to make wis e choices is a sign of maturity. In some ways they got short changed, they couldn&rsquo;t come to the youth minister at their church and complain about how rotten their dad was, we were blessed that others in our church and our youth ministry network stepped up to speak into their lives as well,&nbsp ; and church &ldquo;business&rdquo; kept me out some. But I wouldn&rsquo;t trade those years of seeing my own flesh and blood encounter God for anything.</p><p><strong>Stage 5</strong>-Empty Nest.&nbsp; Stayed tuned, we&rsquo;re still learning what this one is all about.</p> ]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Undercover Boss</title>
<pubDate>Tue, 2 Mar 2010 11:39:00 -0400</pubDate>
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I have become hooked on the new television show &ldquo;Undercover Boss&rdquo;. The whole premise of the show is that the CEO&rsquo;s of major corporations go undercover to find out what is really goi ...
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>I have become hooked on the new television show &ldquo;<a title="undercover boss" href="http://www.cbs.com/primetime/undercover_boss/" target="_self">Undercover Boss</a>&rdquo;.&nbsp; The whole premise of the show is that the CEO&rsquo;s of major corporations go undercover to find out what is really going on and what it is really like to work in and for their companies. </p><p>A couple of random thoughts circulate through my head as I watch this show.&nbsp; One, I wonder how many of us as ministers really know what it is like to live the life of our church members? I think of Wednesday&rsquo;s in particular. 8+ hours at work, rush home get the family ready for church, interruption of homework schedules and what to do about supper&hellip;.Then drive to church, go 3 or more different directions as families and then have to rush home and, get ready for bed and the next day. It is probably a 16 hour non-stop day.&nbsp; WOW, make me tired just thinking about it.&nbsp; And that&rsquo;s just Wednesday.&nbsp; It doesn&rsquo;t count for the Monday committee meeting and Tuesday visitation and Saturday morning breakfast and then the marathon that Sunday&rsquo;s have become.</p><p>The second thought is this. Do I as a staff member have any idea what it is like to work in the nursery on Sunday morning?&nbsp; What it&rsquo;s like to have to go into &ldquo;overtime&rdquo; because the service ran long again? Or I may wonder why some of the young adult families always head out the back during the invitation, and cringe, but it may be they are trying to beat the line to pick up their children. Do I know what it is like to be the janitor on Monday or Thursday that has to clean up after us? &nbsp;Or how about those who have to walk from the hither lands of parking lot because the staff got all the prime spots by the entrance doors? Or the Van/Bus driver that gets there early drives the routes to pick up students for church only to be lambasted (again) because those kids need to learn to behave?</p><p>I could go on and on, but I think we get the point.&nbsp; Let&rsquo;s be proactive and take some time and look at how we do things, how it affects the volunteers we have and then do our best to make their investment worthwhile. </p><p>&nbsp;</p> ]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Discussion on retaining 16-19 year old students</title>
<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 15:22:00 -0400</pubDate>
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Youth Worker Training at Six Locations of the Growing Ministries TourAre you seeking improvement in the overall health of your church? Desiring to grow strategic ministries in your church? Pastors, ch ...
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <h2><a title="Sunday School Training at Six Locations of the Growing Ministries Tour" href="http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/02252010025615PMWEBRDQ.htm">Youth Worker Training at Six Locations of the Growing Ministries Tour</a></h2><div class="entry"><p align="center"><img  class="center" src="http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/../../../../web/tn/GMT_Event_Art.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Are you seeking improvement in the overall health of your church? Desiring to grow strategic ministries in your church? </p><p>Pastors, church staff, and leaders/workers&nbsp;in the areas of Stewardship, Discipleship, Assimilation, Sunday School, <strong><em><span style="text-decoration:underline">Youth Ministry</span></em></strong> and Preschool/Children Ministry are invited to come together to be challenged and better equipped for sharpening the effectiveness of these key ministries. Sessions include (Sunday School training is highlighted:</p><p><strong>SESSION ONE:</strong></p><ul><li><div>Meeting the Resource Challenge Through a Stewardship Strategy</div></li><li><div>The Velcro Church</div></li><li><div>Sunday School Momentum: Six Steps Forward This Year - Move attendance and attitude from stagnant to growing by addressing prayer, <a href="http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/#">enrollment</a>, prospects, contacts, workers, planning and training.</div></li><li><div>Discipleship from the Inside Out</div></li><li><div><strong><em><span style="text-decoration:underline">Retaining 16-19 Year-Olds</span></em></strong></div></li><li><div>Transforming Preschoolers and Children</div></li></ul><p><strong>SESSION TWO:</strong></p><ul><li><div>Evaluating the Effectiveness of Our Stewardship Ministry</div></li><li><div>The Velcro Church</div></li><li><div>Sunday School Multiplication: Three Critical Issues - Reach, care for, andmobilize more people as new&nbsp;teachers, leaders, and <a href="http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/#">classes</a> are launched.</div></li><li><div>Discipleship from the Inside Out</div></li><li><div><strong><em><span style="text-decoration:underline">Retaining 16-19 Year-Olds</span></em></strong></div></li><li><div>Empowering Parents</div><div /></li></ul><p>The schedule for each location begins at 6:30 PM local time and concludes at 9:00 PM.&nbsp; Participants will be able to choose one of&nbsp;the six&nbsp;conferences to attend for each session. The cost for the training is $10 per person or $50 maximum per church.</p><p>Click your prefered date/location below for more information and to <a href="http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/#">register</a>:</p><ul><li><a href="http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/../../../../kbc.nsf/pages/Growing+Ministries+Tour+LaGrange+Baptist+Church+LaGrange+KY+4+12+2010.html">April 12, 2010 in the Oldham-Trimble Association</a><br />LaGrange Baptist Church<br />1139 Commerce Pkwy, LaGrange </li><li><a href="http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/../../../../kbc.nsf/pages/Growing+Ministries+Tour+Mayslick+Baptist+Church+Mayslick+KY+4+13+2010.html">April 13, 2010 in the Bracken Association</a><br />Mayslick Baptist Church<br />5105 Main St, Mayslick </li><li><a href="http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/../../../../kbc.nsf/pages/Growing+Ministries+Tour+First+Baptist+Church+Monticello+KY+4+20+2010.html">April 20, 2010 in the Wayne Association</a><br />First Baptist Church, Monticello<br />2124 E Highway 90, Monticello </li><li><a href="http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/../../../../kbc.nsf/pages/Growing+Ministries+Tour+Hawesville+Baptist+Church+Hawesville+KY+4+22+2010.html">April 22, 2010 in the Blackford-Breckinridge Association</a><br />Hawesville Baptist Church<br />125 Jefferson St, Hawesville </li><li><a href="http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/../../../../kbc.nsf/pages/Growing+Ministries+Tour+First+Baptist+Church+Danville+KY+4+27+2010.html">April 27, 2010 in the South District Association</a><br />First Baptist Church, Danville<br />1570 North Danville Bypass Danville, Kentucky </li><li><a href="http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/../../../../kbc.nsf/pages/Growing+Ministries+Tour+First+Baptist+Church+Eddyville+KY+5+10+2010.html">May 10, 2010 in the Caldwell-Lyon Association</a><br />First Baptist Church, Eddyville <br />216 Jenkins Rd, Eddyville </li></ul><p>Add this to your schedule. Plan to bring a group from your church. Bring a van load! See you there!</p></div><p><a title="Category: Pastors/Sunday School Directors" href="http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/../archive?openview&title=Pastors/Sunday+School+Directors&type=ca t&cat=Pastors/Sunday+School+Directors&strict=n" /></p> ]]></content:encoded>
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<title>surviving the interim period</title>
<pubDate>Tue, 2 Feb 2010 13:56:00 -0400</pubDate>
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I am doing an interim again, this time at Westport Road Baptist Church here in Louisville. It is always a humbling experience to be trusted with a group of students, if even for a short period of time ...
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<dc:creator>Joe Ball</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ I am doing an interim again, this time at <a title="westport rd" href="http://www.westportroadbaptist.com/" target="_self">Westport Road Baptist Church</a> here in Louisville. It is always a humbling experience to be trusted with a group of students, if even for a short period of time. &nbsp;As interims go this one has gone really smooth, and has been a blessing to do. The staff, volunteers and students are fantastic. But it also got me thinking about steps churches can take to have a good interim period. <br /><br />Have realistic time expectations-As the interim minister I am not at the church 40-50 hours a week like the minister I replaced. &nbsp;At Westport and at Cedar Creek, my agreement is/was be here Sunday&rsquo;s and Wednesday&rsquo;s and make staff meeting as much as you can. &nbsp;I can do that. &nbsp;But I probably won&rsquo;t have time to attend ballgames, dance recitals or make hospital visits. &nbsp;It&rsquo;s not that I don&rsquo;t want to do these, they are part of the ministry that I really enjoy, I honestly just don&rsquo;t have the time. &nbsp; <br /><br />Event planning-I love events, in youth ministry you learn to plan events or you&rsquo;re not in ministry for long. &nbsp;But know that I am not going to do things just like the last minister did, nor do I need to. &nbsp;Part of my job as the interim is to prepare you for who is coming next. &nbsp;And I can almost guarantee you that they are not going to do things the way the last minister did. &nbsp;So part of my job is to keep things similar enough to be familiar, but different enough to make the next step an okay one. &nbsp;But, I may not have the time to make the event as big or as fancy as the last minister, (see step one). <br /><br />Use volunteers as much as possible. &nbsp;Don&rsquo;t get me wrong, I do believe there is a time and place to hire and interim, but I not sure that every vacancy needs to hire someone from outside. &nbsp;The ideal would be to put together lead teams made up of volunteers, parents and students that can see to the ministry during the transition period. &nbsp;You may also need to appoint someone to speak for the ministry at staff, committee and business meetings; and you probably also need someone to serve as interim leader, but that could be a volunteer as well. &nbsp;Volunteers are the key to successful youth ministry. <br />&nbsp; <br />Don&rsquo;t settle for holding things together-To many times I think this is the attitude we take during the interim times. &nbsp;I have had this conversation with churches whose mindset is &ldquo;we just want to be able to hold things together until the new youth minister gets here&rdquo;. &nbsp;Why? &nbsp;There is no reason to think the ministry will have to suffer. &nbsp;Sure there isn&rsquo;t just one person giving attention to the ministry, but there also isn&rsquo;t just one person giving attention to the ministry. &nbsp;Dividing responsibilities can allow each person to take a small piece of the ministry and make it the best it can be and that can lead to growth in the ministry during the interim period. <br /><br />Process-as much as possible keep the workers and the students &ldquo;in the know&rdquo; as to how the process for a replacement is going. &nbsp;There isn&rsquo;t a need for names and current ministry placements of the ministers you are looking at. &nbsp;But just a general sense of where you are: receiving resumes, narrowing the search, asking for more information, talking to a couple of people, etc. &nbsp;It just lets those involved in leadership and the students in the ministry know that you are being diligent in your duties and will help to calm the uneasiness the students may be feeling. &nbsp; <br /><br />Pray. Involve the students and the leaders in praying for the search committee and for the next minister. As they pray and ask for God&rsquo;s guidance the Spirit will begin to turn their hearts towards who is next. I&rsquo;m not sure there has ever been a time when someone has said, &ldquo;I wish I hadn&rsquo;t prayed so much&rdquo; over that decision. &nb sp; ]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Teens Drop Sports</title>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 10:25:00 -0400</pubDate>
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A recent blog post from Connect with Kids, talks about how students are dropping out of organized sports at age 13. A few highlighgts from the post:According to the National Alliance for Youth Sport ...
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>A recent blog post from <a title="cwk" href="http://www.cwkn.net/tip_vids/091202_sports.flv" target="_self">Connect with Kids</a>, talks about how students are dropping out of organized sports at age 13.&nbsp;&nbsp; </p><p>A few highlighgts from the post:</p><ul><li><div><em>According to the National Alliance for Youth Sports, 73 percent of kids drop organized sports by age 13.</em> </div></li><li><div><em>They practiced every day and had games every weekend. In the end they had little time for anything else. Dr. Richard Winer, a psychiatrist in metro-Atlanta says, "The pressure really becomes too much, and after a while they really become disillusioned with the entire sports scene, and get tired of it and finally say, 'That's it for me.'"</em></div></li><li><p><em>So what should you do if your child wants to quit the team? Dr. Winer says, "One of the things that you might want to look at is a different sport. Sometimes kids just get burned out on one sport." </em></p></li><li><p><em>Laura says, "If it wasn't as much of a time commitment it would still be really awesome if you could do some sort of recreational league, if it was an hour a week, or one game per week or something."</em></p></li></ul><p>&nbsp;</p><p>I wonder if there are some things we can learn about why teens are dropping out of church as well?</p> ]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Starting the new year off right</title>
<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 12:00:00 -0400</pubDate>
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So it is 2010. And for me the transition from one year to the next always provides opportunity for reflection. Maybe part of that is because my birthday falls between Christmas and New Years, but not ...
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<dc:creator>Joe Ball</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ So it is 2010. And for me the transition from one year to the next always provides opportunity for reflection. Maybe part of that is because my birthday falls between Christmas and New Years, but not all of it can be attributed to that. &nbsp;This year it has been interesting to listen to people debate as to whether or not this is the last year of the decade or the beginning of a new one. &nbsp;News and sports programs have been running highlights of the past decade; while others are saying you&rsquo;re too early the decade has another year in it. &nbsp;While all of this has been fun for me to listen to, it really doesn&rsquo;t matter all that much in the grand scheme of things. &nbsp; <br /><br />So in the time of reflection this year several things keep coming into my mind and I want to share them as we begin 2010. <br /><br /><strong>Family Time is non-negotiable</strong>. &nbsp;Maybe it is the stage of life that I am in, the oldest child graduating college and the youngest beginning, but time with your family can not be overlooked or made up for later. &nbsp;I am blessed by the younger youth ministers that I know that &ldquo;have gotten&rdquo; this concept. &nbsp;It is refreshing to see pictures on facebook of family vacations, school functions and sporting events. Youth Ministers that are intentionally carving out family time in their schedules are refreshing and are also modeling for their students how families should be a priority in life. &nbsp;May their tribe increase. <br /><br />In the words of <a title="deve ramsey" href="http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/www.daveramsey.com" target="_self">Dave Ramsey</a>, &ldquo;<strong>Debt is dumb</strong>&rdquo;. I wish I had realized that sooner, maybe I still wouldn&rsquo;t be paying for the microwave we bought 24 years ago. &nbsp;And while I know that youth ministers tend to be the least paid member of the church staff that is no excuse for us not to be good stewards of the money we have been entrusted with. &nbsp;And while we all like to have the latest tech gadgets and such we must figure out how to live within our means. &nbsp;Not only that we must teach it to our students. &nbsp; <br /><br /><strong>My personal relationship with God must be priority one. </strong>&nbsp;We spend our lives telling this to students, but I fear that in the living of life this gets lost in the shuffle. &nbsp;Time preparing for teaching and preaching is not a substitute for personal time with God. &nbsp;When our well is dry it is hard to teach from the overflow of what God is doing in our lives. &nbsp; <br /><br /><strong>It is OK to say NO.</strong> &nbsp;Probably the hardest lesson for me to learn has been this, and I am still learning it. &nbsp;No is OK. &nbsp;It allows me to stay focused on the task at hand, stay true to the vision God has given me, and to make sure that those things that I say I value get the attention they deserve. &nbsp; <br /><br /><strong>Evaluate your ministry.</strong> &nbsp;It gets easier to do youth ministry the longer you are in a place. &nbsp;Having served 12+ years at Edgewood, I understand some of the nuisances of longevity. &nbsp;The students, adult leaders and parents know what to expect. &nbsp;Disciple Now weekend is done this way, every New Years Eve brings a lock-in, camp is always the third week of June, every February is our True Love Waits emphasis. It almost gets to a point where we can do this in our sleep, and my fear is often times we do. &nbsp;Making the determination between has my ministry gotten stale and needs to be refreshed and have I done all I can do here and it is time to move on may just be one of the hardest things to do. &nbsp;Find some people you trust to help with the evaluation process. <br /><br />As we begin this new decade (or is it the last year of the old decade?), let us take time to reflect on what it is God has called us to do, and then get about doing it. ]]></content:encoded>
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<pubDate>Fri, 8 Jan 2010 15:40:00 -0400</pubDate>
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Traveling around the state as I do, I have had plenty of opportunities to see churches youth spaces. Most everybody like to show theirs off, and I enjoy seeing them. There are certain things that se ...
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Traveling around the state as I do, I have had plenty of opportunities to see churches youth spaces.&nbsp; Most everybody like to show theirs off, and I&nbsp;enjoy seeing them.&nbsp; There are&nbsp;certain things that seem to be standard&nbsp;in&nbsp;a lot of them:&nbsp;posters, loud colors, projectors or BIG tv's, an eating area&nbsp;and pictures of youth group trips.&nbsp; Some have lights and a sound system and&nbsp;couches, others are simple and more reflective.&nbsp; The beauty is even&nbsp;in their sameness each is unique.&nbsp; Tailored to the group that is present, to the "type" of students that are attending or that they are trying to attract.</p><p>As I was preparing to teach the other night at Westport Road I watched the students scurry for the seats next to the outlets so they could plug their phones into recharge.&nbsp;(And now that I have an iphone I understand why).&nbsp; And in that process of watching students I had this thought about youth space in the future.&nbsp; Just as today's youth space is filled with Big screens and sound the next will have banks of outlets&nbsp;to recharge&nbsp;laptops and phones and wireless internet service will be a&nbsp;must as well.</p><p>And just as I was about to say, put your phones away, or at least turn the ringer off, I had another thought. This one hit a little closer to home.&nbsp; I ask myself, would you go into a foriegn country and ask them to not speak their language, or to a deaf congregation and ask them not to sign?&nbsp; If the perfered communication method of today's students is technolgy related then what am I doing to reach them through their perferred style of communications?&nbsp; Like I said, this hit closer to home.&nbsp; It is easy to ask students to put their phones away and pay attention when I speak.&nbsp; But do they really hear me? I tell churches all the time that this generation is charactized by the ability to multi-task. But am I willing to allow them to?</p><p>So I guess I am asking, are we embracing the culture of our students, or fighting it off?</p> ]]></content:encoded>
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<title>promoting the Lottie Moon Christmas Offering</title>
<pubDate>Tue, 8 Dec 2009 09:42:00 -0400</pubDate>
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I am always amazed this time of year by the amount of energy we spend as churches on celebrating Christmas. We have pageants, musicals, special candlelight services and go to several class parties to ...
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<dc:creator>Joe Ball</dc:creator>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ I am always amazed this time of year by the amount of energy we spend as churches on celebrating Christmas.&nbsp; We have pageants, musicals, special candlelight services and go to several class parties to celebrate.&nbsp; While thinking on this I began to wonder how much energy we give to teaching our students about the <a title="lmco" href="http://www.imb.org/main/lead/page.asp?StoryID=4519&LanguageID=1709" target="_self">Lottie Moon Christmas Offering</a> and getting them involved in helping support our missionaries that are taking the message of Christmas all around the world.&nbsp; So I ask. I emailed several youth ministers from across Kentucky and ask them this question: <em>How are your students involved in giving to and promoting the Lottie Moon Christmas Offering?<br /></em><p>&nbsp;</p> <p>The responses were mixed.&nbsp; About half of those that responded (and probably most of those that didn&rsquo;t) did not involve their students at all in giving or promoting the Lottie Moon Christmas Offering.One said &ldquo;We don't really do anything&rdquo;, another said, we &ldquo;haven't done much with students regarding the Lottie Moon offering.&nbsp; We give towards it, but haven't connected students to it very well.&rdquo;</p><p>&nbsp;</p>Now, before we all get discouraged and going running to our youth ministers&rsquo; office with promotional materials for the Lottie Moon Christmas Offering let&rsquo;s note that all of those responded are in churches that give to and support Lottie.&nbsp; It is just that they didn&rsquo;t do anything special with their students.<br /><p>&nbsp;</p>I was encouraged by what some of the youth minister were doing and want to share a few of them with you.<br /><p>&nbsp;</p>Rob Marquess, youth minister at Ashby Lane Baptist Church in Louisville said: &ldquo;<span>Our ladies have a tea to raise money for the Lottie Moon offering and two of our youth girls are sponsoring a table a</span>t the tea.&rdquo; He went on to say, &ldquo;And most years several of our guys volunteer to serve at the tea.&nbsp; Yea and we're all real cute in our white shirts and red bow ties and aprons.&rdquo;<br /><p>&nbsp;</p> <p><span>Tree Akers, Minister to Students at <a title="northside" href="http://www.n-side.org/" target="_self">Northside Baptist Church</a> in Elizabethtown replied: &ldquo;</span>we have a few students that assist with physical illustrations and representations in the Sunday morning services for December.&rdquo;&nbsp; Also, &ldquo;one of our ladies comes up with the different things we can pray for, and frequently, she will have students assist&rdquo; her in this.&nbsp; Also, &ldquo;our church does a Lottie Moon Christmas post office.&nbsp; Cards that go to various church members, are placed in the "church post office" and are sorted and sometimes delivered by the youth.&rdquo;&nbsp; &nbsp;To help raise money toward the churches goal &ldquo;We do ask for a suggested donation per card&rdquo;.&nbsp; </p><p>&nbsp;</p>At <a title="fbc richmond" href="http://www.firstbaptistnet.com/" target="_self">First Baptist Church in Richmond</a>, were Steve Coleman is the minister to students they &ldquo;are stressing Lottie Moon as a way to give a gift to Jesus for the Christmas season. &nbsp;Everyone else gets a present on Christmas so how can you give Jesus a gift?&rdquo; they ask their students.&nbsp; The answer Steve tells them is, &ldquo;give to Lottie Moon so  that missions can be carried out all over the world. &nbsp;Cash works best; you can put it into a Christmas card and place it on the altar or the remembrance table the last Sunday before Christmas.&rdquo; <br /><p>&nbsp;</p><span>&ldquo;We talk about Lottie Moon with our students and encourage giving to the main offering that our church takes up&rdquo;, said John Beach, Minister of Students at <a title="fbcbg" href="http://www.firstbaptistbg.org/" target="_self">Bowling Green First Baptist Church</a>, &ldquo;and recently we were at SBTS and took a little time to show them the desk display they have in the Honeycutt Center and talk about her life and ministry a little while we had the opportunity.&rdquo;</span><br />&nbsp;<br />While I was at <a title="edgewood" href="http://www.edgewoodbaptistchurch.org/" target="_self">Edgewood </a>each year we would, as a church do the <a title="international mission study" href="http://www.wmu.com/index.php?q=content/international-missions-study-2009" target="_self">International Missions Study</a> that was provided by our church&rsquo;s WMU.&nbsp; We would teach the youth study and use that as on opportunity to teach how the monies from the Lottie Moon Christmas Offering were spent.<br />Let us all do our part to find ways to involve our students in giving to and promoting the Lottie Moon Christmas Offering. ]]></content:encoded>
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<title>The Long Term effect of Spiritual Activity among children and Teens</title>
<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 13:25:00 -0400</pubDate>
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The Barna group just recently posted new research on the connection between childhood faith and adult religious commitment. Excerpts from the research are below. One of the remarkable facts about the ...
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <a href=http://www.barna.org/ target=_self><span style="text-decoration:underline">The Barna group</span></a> just recently posted new research on the connection between childhood faith and adult religious commitment. &nbsp;Excerpts from the research are below. <p><em>One of the remarkable facts about the current U.S. adult population is the breadth of people&#8217;s exposure to spiritual training as children and teenagers. More than eight out of every 10 adults remembers consistently attending Sunday school or some other religious training before the age of 12. Those who recall being involved typically said they were engaged every week. In fact, seven out of 10 adults (69%) said they attended religious programs weekly.</em> <p><em>The types of Americans most likely to recall religious participation as teenagers were evangelicals (61%), those ages 65-plus (60%), born again Christians (58%), Catholics (58%), women (56%), political conservatives (56%), residents of the Midwest (56%), married adults (55%), and Protestants (54%). On the other hand, atheists and agnostics (19%), members of other faith groups (30%), unchurched adults (31%), never-married individuals (33%), economically downscale adults (40%), and men (44%) were the least likely to have frequently attended Sunday school or other religious programs during their teen years.</em> <p><em>When it comes to church engagement, those who attended Sunday school or other religious programs as children or as teens were much more likely than those without such experiences to attend church and to have an active faith as adults. For instance, among those who frequently attended such programs as a child, 50% said they attended a worship service in the last week, which is slightly higher than the national average and well ahead of those who rarely or never attended children&#8217;s programs. Among those who frequently attended religious programs as teenagers, 58% said they had attended a worship service in the last week. In comparison, less frequent participation as a teenager correlated with less frequent adult participation</em>.  <p><em>Measures of disassociation &#8211; being unchurched and changing from childhood faith &#8211; were also correlated with activity before age 18. The highest proportion of unchurched adults was found among those who had never attended as children or teenagers. Weekly activity as a child and weekly or monthly activity as a teen were connected with the lowest levels of disconnection from church attendance. </em> <p>To read the full report <a href="http://www.barna.org/barna-update/article/15-familykids/321-new-research-explores-the-long-term-effect-of-spiritual-activity-among-children-and-teens" target=_self><span style="text-decoration:underline">click here.</span></a> ]]></content:encoded>
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<title>It&#8217;s interim time again</title>
<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 10:12:00 -0400</pubDate>
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This week I began my second interim youth ministers gig. I am serving at Westport Road Baptist Church here in LouisvilleWednesday night was a blast, as I once again got a chance to stand in front of ...
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>This week I began my second interim youth ministers gig.&nbsp; I am serving at <a title="wrbc" href="http://www.westportroadbaptist.com/" target="_self">Westport Road Baptist Church</a> here in Louisville</p><p>Wednesday night was a blast, as I once again got a chance to stand in front of a group of students.&nbsp; Not much charges the adrenaline of Youth minsiter like standing in front of a group of students.&nbsp; We leave today for a weekend retreat at <a title="crossings" href="http://crossingsministries.org/" target="_self">Cedarmore</a>.&nbsp; A whole weekend with students!</p> ]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Homelessness lessons</title>
<pubDate>Tue, 3 Nov 2009 13:49:00 -0400</pubDate>
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Over fall break the student ministry from the Hillcrest Baptist Church in Hopkinsville participated in a &ldquo;homeless work camp&rdquo;. Bill Houpt, the Associate Pastor for Youth said; &ldquo;for ...
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Over fall break the student ministry from the <a title="Hillcrest" href="http://www.hillcrestbc.net/" target="_self">Hillcrest Baptist Church in Hopkinsville</a> participated in a &ldquo;homeless work camp&rdquo;. &nbsp;Bill Houpt, the Associate Pastor for Youth said; &ldquo;for the past few years we have taken our youth to inner city Washington D.C. to work with the homeless. We have fed them on the street, cleaned homeless shelters, took them to dinner with us, and a variety of other ministering opportunities. While my students felt sympathetic toward them never could feel empathic toward them.&rdquo;</p><p>&nbsp;&ldquo;The students came on Sunday night with just the clothes on their back, a sleeping bag, and a cardboard box,&rdquo; Houpt said. Then &ldquo;after they got their home&rdquo; (their box) &ldquo;set up I gave each student $5 and sent them walking to Kroger to buy their food for the week. Some bought a box of cereal, some peanut butter and crackers, some ramen noodles, all with the knowledge they would have no way to heat it up, they would just have to eat it the way it was.&rdquo;</p><p>Houpt had all the students&rsquo; journal about their experience. That night, Kristen Stephens, a senior at Christian County High School wrote, &ldquo;Tonight we were given $5 to buy food to last till Wednesday night. Man did I find out what a dollar is really worth. I wanted to use every last cent. We had to walk to and from Kroger in the cold wet rain. But we came back to a warm fire! I felt so blessed; most homeless people don&rsquo;t get that luxury.&rdquo;</p><p>Houpt continued, &ldquo;Monday through Wednesday we performed a variety of ministries, all connected with manual labor. This represented the day job atmosphere the homeless person lives in. At night we would have bible study and worship.&rdquo; </p><p>Kristen&rsquo;s account of the first day, included these notations; &ldquo;I&rsquo;m so tired. But I am ok! Today we were supposed to wake up at 8, but all of us were up and around the fire before 6:30! Today was a good day we went to the worksite and got most of the work done. We were working really hard. And MAN did we stink! All I can really think about is how we were only experiencing half of what real homeless people go through. They have to deal with so much more like getting mugged, actually sleeping outside without a box, and go days without food. I take so much for granted. I am really learning to appreciate what I have and what my parents do for me.&rdquo; </p><p>&ldquo;By Wednesday&rdquo; Houpt said, &ldquo;we were quite smelly and hungry but God had begun to do His work. The overriding empathy for what a homeless person's life is like was present. Many saw a new value of a dollar. Many had a new respect for what their family had provided. This has spawned a few student new ministries: collecting coats, feeding at the soup kitchen, just to name a few.&rdquo;</p><p>Kristen&rsquo;s final entry read: &ldquo;Today was a no food day. We got breakfast and coffee that&rsquo;s it. I&rsquo;m hungry.&rdquo; She continued &ldquo;This week was amazing! I&rsquo;ve learned so much. The main thing I got out of this week is, it&rsquo;s not what you get out of an experience, it&rsquo;s what you give. See we can get so much out of this like learning to appreciate things and really understand and be more compassionate about the homeless. That&rsquo;s great and all except we don&rsquo;t need God for that! We could be locked in a closet and get all th at. We would be just like the Pharisees in Luke 11: 37-54! We must give! And we can only do that with God.&rdquo; </p><p>Houpt concluded, &ldquo;The students are not the only ones that learned a lot. &nbsp;We are definitely doing this again spring break. However; the students want it to be longer with less money. Go figure!&rdquo; </p><p>To read all the students journal entries for the week go to <a title="XFORCE BLOG" href="http://xforce.tumblr.com/" target="_self">http://xforce.tumblr.com/</a></p><p>And just recently 3 churches in Bullitt County: Victory Baptist, Vine Hill  Baptist and Bardstown Baptist Church youth groups participated in a similar event.&nbsp; For a report what they did <a title="pioneer news" href="http://www.pioneernews.net/cgi-bin/c2.cgi?093+article+News+20091102103014093093001" target="_self">click here.</a></p> ]]></content:encoded>
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<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 23:09:00 -0400</pubDate>
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Winfield Bevins just wrote a great piece over at Resurgence about small group landmines. I've seen all of these things happen at one time or another. Take a look at these and tell us (in the comment ...
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Winfield Bevins just wrote a great piece over at Resurgence about small group landmines.&nbsp; I've seen all of these things happen at one time or another.&nbsp; Take a look at these and tell us (in the comments section) which of these landmines you've experienced the most, and how you've dealt with them...</p><p><strong>1. They become a gossip group. </strong></p><p>Small groups are not a place to talk about others; rather they should be a safe place that is free from gossip and condemnation. People who attend a small group should feel free to come as they are and share openly and honestly. If we are not careful, small groups can degenerate into a gossip group that will tear down instead of build up.</p><p><strong>2. They become a one-man show. </strong></p><p>The leader should not do all the talking. Encourage others to participate and share in the group discussions. I have been to some small groups where only one person does all the talking. When this happens no one wants to share, much less attend. An effective small group leader encourages everyone to participate in the times of discussion.</p><p><strong>3. They become a place to complain about the church. </strong></p><p>Small groups can become a sounding board for disgruntled people to complain about the church. This is not a place to complain and slander the church. If people have a problem with the church, they need to share it with the church&rsquo;s leadership, which is biblical. Train your leaders to protect the unity of the church by not allowing upset people to use the small group as a place to complain about their problems.</p><p><strong>4. They become a place for crazy people to take over. </strong></p><p>Small groups can attract crazy people who will hijack the group if you let them. Do not allow people to get off the subject by chasing rabbit trails. Whenever people start getting off track in the discussions, bring them back quickly. This requires a lot of discernment and grace. A good leader can keep people on track and the discussion moving.</p><p><strong>5. They become an end in themselves. </strong></p><p>Sometimes small groups become merely a meeting place or a social club; rather small groups should reach out to new people in the community. Small groups can also serve the community. Encourage your people to reach out to others. Begin thinking of creative ways that you can serve together as a small group.</p><p>Read more here at <a href="http://theresurgence.com/5-small-group-landmines" target="_blank">The Resurgence</a>... Or check out <a href="http://www.churchobx.com/" target="_blank">Winfield's church here...</a></p> ]]></content:encoded>
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<pubDate>Fri, 9 Oct 2009 18:13:00 -0400</pubDate>
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This was originally posted at Dr. T's Rambling Thoughts Many churches today are having a very difficult time reaching teenagers with the message of Jesus Christ. Not only are the struggling to get tee ...
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ This was originally posted at <a href="http://thoughtsfromdrt.blogspot.com/2009/10/what-can-churches-do-to-reach-teens.html" target=_self><span style="text-decoration:underline">Dr. T's Rambling Thoughts</span></a> <p><em>Many churches today are having a very difficult time reaching teenagers with the message of Jesus Christ. Not only are the struggling to get teens from outside the church to discover Jesus, they are also not having much success keeping the teens who grew up in the church and should already be committed to Jesus. While the majority of churches are struggling to reach teens, some churches are succeeding in this area. What is the difference between those churches that are effectively reaching teens and those that are not? I have spent a lot of time reflecting on this question. Based on my experience in reaching teens and in working with a variety of churches, I have come up with these suggestions for how churches can reach teens more effectively.<br /> <br /> 1. Teens will attend a church that makes them feel loved.<br /> This does not mean the church has to agree with everything teens do. Nor does it mean that churches cannot preach strong messages about sin that apply to teens. But it does mean that churches demonstrate love and acceptance to teens. Teens are struggling with a lot of issues. Their lack of emotional maturity will result in them doing things they should not do. Knowing there is a group of people that love them no matter what is very important to teens. They will go to a church that shows such love.<br /> <br /> 2. Teens will attend a church that proves love by its actions.<br /> Teens are used to being told that someone loves them, but they see very little actual evidence of that love. Parents tell teens they love them, and then proceed to get a divorce because they love their new girlfriend or boyfriend more. Teens go too far sexually in a relationship because they are told they are loved, but once the other person gets what they want from the teen, the relationship ends and the teen is left wondering what happened to love. Churches say they love teens, but then fail to do anything that proves that love. If churches really love teens, they are going to have to put actions behind their words.<br /> <br /> 3. Teens will attend a church that speaks their &#8220;language.&#8221;<br /> Teens have a number of ways in which they communicate, but the two that adults misunderstand most often is their love of music and their love of technology. Teens love music. Teens communicate in music. Teens use lyrics for their Facebook status and MySpace updates. Teens use music to communicate their feelings about relationships and events. Teens generally like music that is more upbeat than most adults, but more important than the beat is that music has deep meaning and communicates something important. In music, teens want to talk &#8220;to&#8221; God, not just &#8220;about&#8221; God. Churches that want to reach teens will probably need to speed the music tempo up, but they will also need to select songs that speak powerfully about how God can interact in daily lives.<br /> Teens also love technology. They have been immersed in various video gadgets almost since birth. They have a hard time learning and communicating to others without the aid of technology. Churches that want to communicate with teens are going to have to learn to use technology both to reach out to teens and to help teens worship and learn.<br /> <br /> 4. Teens will attend a church that lets teens be involved in leading.<br /> Teens are not interested in just sitting in the back pew and watching. Teens want to be involved in leading the music, taking the offering, saying the prayers and teaching the classes. Though they will need guidance in these types of leadership area s due to their maturity level, teens can lead effectively in the church. Churches that do not let teens lead will no t keep teens very long.<br /> <br /> 5. Teens will attend a church that makes sermons and Bible studies relevant to their real life experience.<br /> People of all ages find it difficult to be faithful to church when the sermons and Bible studies do not seem relevant to real life. Teens find it almost impossible. This is why many churches cannot keep the teens that grew up in their churches. The topics covered during times of worship and Bible study seem to have little bearing on real life experiences. Pastors and Bible study leaders need to think carefully about how they teach the truth of the Word. They do need to give solid doctrine and historical Biblical context, but they also must have up to date applications of how that teaching impacts real life. Churches that fail to do this will not only lose their teens, but will eventually enter into a state of decline as people of all ages look for a church that is more relevant to life.<br /> <br /> By following these principles, churches can reach out more effectively to teens and help them discover a life changing relationship with Jesus.</em> <p>Dr. Terry Dorsett serves as a church planting missionary with the North American Mission Board of the SBC. He has a passion for helping young people discover a meaningful faith.  <p>&nbsp; ]]></content:encoded>
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<title>How Do Ordinary Students Become Growing Leaders? </title>
<pubDate>Wed, 7 Oct 2009 15:11:00 -0400</pubDate>
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Originally posted byTim Elmore, on from his leadership link email / www.GrowingLeaders.com / www.Habitudes.orgNot long ago, a movie hit the box offices around the U.S. It was called, "Defiance." The m ...
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>Originally posted byTim Elmore, on&nbsp;from his leadership link email&nbsp;/ <a title="growling leaders" href="http://www.growingleaders.com/" target="_blank"><span class="yshortcuts">www.GrowingLeaders.com</span></a> / <a title="Habitudes" href="http://www.habitudes.org/" target="_blank"><span class="yshortcuts">www.Habitudes.org</span></a></p><p>Not long ago, a movie hit the box offices around the U.S. It was called, "Defiance." The movie told the history of hundreds of <span class="yshortcuts" style="cursor: hand; border-bottom: #0066cc 1px dashed">Jewish refugees</span> who avoided the capture of the Nazi's during <span class="yshortcuts" style="cursor: hand; border-bottom: #0066cc 1px dashed">World War II</span>, in Belarus. It's a poignant true story of leadership during a time of chaos. <span class="yshortcuts">Daniel Craig</span> plays the role of Tuvia Bielski, and Live Schreiber plays the role of his brother, Zus. These men struggle with how best to navigate the future of this growing band of resistants. There were no titles, or badges naming who should be in charge-and the brothers' convictions were sharply different. The whole story got me thinking-how do leaders emerge? How do we spot them? On what path do they step forward for all to see? How do ordinary students become leaders that others will follow?&nbsp;&nbsp; <br />&nbsp;<br />Both you and your students are on a leadership journey. Let me suggest four paths that individuals take on their way to becoming a leader. Maybe you can spot these in your organization or campus.<br />&nbsp;<br /><span style="font-weight: bold">1. Some are gifted to lead.</span><br />These are the easiest kind of emerging leaders to identify. They are people who are simply gifted to lead. Either because of their personality or because they have the ability to organize or plan a strategy, these people step up and find it natural to lead, regardless of the circumstance. Whatever team they are on, whatever group they are in-they seem to be the person that others look to for answers. They usually have a strong personality. They often are gifted at articulating key goals. They are almost always clear on what must happen to reach those goals. <br />&nbsp;<br />I have worked alongside Dr. John C. Maxwell since 1983. John is this kind of leader. If you assembled a group of people in a room-and you placed Dr. Maxwell in that room with them, he would inevitably take charge. I don't mean this in a derogatory way. He is just gifted to lead. He does it naturally. He has the ability to quickly see what needs to happen to reach a target or make things run more efficiently, and he has the strength to attract people to his plan. He is magnetic. I have seen John organize travelers at an airport, when the flight was delayed and come up with a plan to get to their destination. I have watched him turn a chaotic situation at a restaurant into one of laughter and cooperation; he turns groups into teams. He steps up to lead because of his gift. <br />&nbsp;<br /><span style="font-weight: bold">2. Some are situated to lead.</span><br />The gifted leader makes up, perhaps 10% of the population. If leading is reserved for gifted individuals-we will certainly experience more problems than solutions. There just aren't enough gifted leaders to go around. Fortunately, this isn't the case. I believe there are two kinds of leaders-and everyone fits into one of these two categories: habitual leaders and situational leaders. Habitual leaders are the ones we just discussed above. They lead out of habit. Situational leaders are the ones who don't believe they're a leader-but, put them in the right situation, and they lead. Find a situation that matches their strengths, their passion and abilities, and in that situation, they will know what to do. And they will influence others.<br />&nbsp;<br />My daughter Bethany is a situational leader. She would be the first to admit she isn't the world's grea test leader. Her personality is very phlegmatic. She's laid back, casual and simply enjoys relationships. H owever, as a <span class="yshortcuts">Resident Advisor</span> at her university-she finds herself in a situation that matches her identity. She is natural at leading her floor of women. She has intuition about people, she is comfortable in meetings, she's confident, she's socially aware and she experiences her deepest influence in that situation. It's her sweet spot.<br />&nbsp;<br /><span style="font-weight: bold">3. Some are positioned to lead.</span><br />There is a third path to leadership. This is where an organization has a role that needs to be filled and a positions person in that role, just to see what happens. Sometimes, they're merely looking for a warm body to meet a need, or a person to temporarily "plug a hole" in the boat. When the potential leader steps into the position-it brings the best out in them. A sense of initiative and responsibility surface and they rise to the occasion. Perhaps those virtues would have never been so visible had it not been for the new "title" and position. Although I do believe there are many people with leadership positions who are not fit to lead, and that a position does not automatically make a leader-still there are some that only lead well once they are given the authority to do so.<br />&nbsp;<br />For years, I taught college students in <span class="yshortcuts">San Diego</span>. Richard was a student who entered our department as a quiet, assuming and shy young man. The last word you would use to describe him was the word: leader. However, as time went on, I noticed his high level of integrity and his follow through on every assignment. I felt he would make a great study group leader-and so I asked him to become one. He was reluctant. He didn't see himself as a leader at all. In fact, he called himself a "follower." I replied that following well was the first step on the leadership journey. Richard finally gave in a led a group. He was outstanding. The next year, he was leading three groups; by his final year in school, he was leading all the <span class="yshortcuts">study group leaders</span>. Even he was surprised. It was in him all the time-he just needed to be positioned correctly. <br />&nbsp;<br /><span style="font-weight: bold">4. Some are summoned to lead. </span><br />This fourth pathway is most intriguing. I believe many potential leaders step into their primary means of influence because they are "summoned" by the circumstances around them. In other words, many people view themselves as quite "ordinary." It is only when a crisis occurs or a tragedy looms on the horizon, that we see what's really inside those ordinary people. They aren't seeking a title, nor are they seeking greatness or notoriety. When a problem emerges, however, they suddenly are clear on what must happen and they step up to the plate. They don't even think of themselves as a leader when they do. The just know someone has to do something, and instead of looking around them...they look inside and do it.<br />&nbsp;<br />In his early days, <span class="yshortcuts" style="cursor: hand; border-bottom: #0066cc 1px dashed">Harry Truman</span> was summoned to lead. As a kid, he was a geek. He worked on a farm, although he wasn't big or well built. He wore thick eye-glasses that resembled the bottom of a Coke bottle. While in college-his father became ill, so he returned home, and never completed his studies. It was while this nerdy young man served in the military during <span class="yshortcuts">World War I</span> that he saw who he was. His troop was marching through <span class="yshortcuts">Europe</span> when German artillery began dropping all around them. Nearly every soldier ran in retreat. <span class="yshortcuts">Harry Truman</span>'s horse fell over almost killing him. But he slipped out from underneath, stood up and yelled for the men to get back in formation. They had a mission to fulfill. Those men were stunned to hear this quiet, li ttle "four-eyed" man calling them to finish what they'd started. They returned and did what Harr y said. Later in his diary, Harry wrote: "I learned two things about myself that night. First, I had a little courage. And, two, I liked to lead others." As president, he handled some of the toughest decisions every made by a leader.<br />&nbsp;<br />Every person's life is an ongoing story. And everyone's life is a path to somewhere. May you be able to see your path and the paths of students around you clearly-and help them become the leader they were meant to become.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br />&nbsp;<br /><br /></p><div>Tim Elmore<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /></div> ]]></content:encoded>
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<title>the need for intergenerational ministry</title>
<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 21:41:00 -0400</pubDate>
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As I look at our society, it seems to becoming increasingly more segregated. I have noticed that one of the few remaining vestiges of multi-generational meetings is the local church. There is a real d ...
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p>As I look at our society, it seems to becoming increasingly more segregated. I have noticed that one of the few remaining vestiges of multi-generational meetings is the local church. There is a real dynamic that plays out most Sunday&rsquo;s in churches across Kentucky, the interaction between teenagers and senior adults.&nbsp; Where else can and do students sit next to and interact with senior adults?&nbsp; Where else do students and senior adults have a common corporate experience? Outside of family gatherings the church may be the only place that most teens consistently interact with an older generation of Christians.&nbsp; Unfortunately too many in youth ministry do not intentionally bring these two divergent groups together. In fact, some of the latest trends in student ministry seem to further segregate students from other areas of church life.&nbsp; </p><p>Some churches are trying to bridge the generation gap.&nbsp; Bill Houpt the associate pastor of the <a title="hillcrest" href="http://www.hillcrestbc.net/" target="_self">Hillcrest Baptist Church in Hopkinsville</a> has for the last 10 years has intentionally bridged this gap with an &ldquo;<em>adopt a grandparent&rdquo; </em>program. This &ldquo;has changed the way I do youth ministry&rdquo;, Houpt says.&nbsp; &ldquo;Every February, a youth adopts a secret grandparent.&nbsp; They invite that grandparent to a Valentine Banquet.&nbsp; At the banquet, we do various serious and fun activities for the purpose of the youth and senior adult getting to know each other.&nbsp; Then in the summer, we have a picnic with the same group&rdquo;, Houpt says.<em><br /></em></p><p>This is more than a once a year event.&nbsp; The relationship began in February extends through out the year &ldquo;the youth support the senior adults by raking their leaves doing chores, etc. The senior adults support the youth &hellip; financially for trips and in prayer.&nbsp; For many, who do not have extended families, the secret grandparents have become their grandparents&rdquo; Houpt says.&nbsp; For some he says, &ldquo;This carries on even after they graduate high school.&rdquo;</p><p><a title="SHBC" href="http://www.summithillsbaptist.org/" target="_self">Summitt Hills Baptist Church</a> is in northern <a title="bullitt" href="http://www.travelbullitt.org/" target="_self">Bullitt County</a>.&nbsp; According their pastor, Dr. Mike Wyndham, &ldquo;it is in fact common, the norm, to have 15-20 youth on Wednesday night and very often less than that number of adults.&rdquo; Wyndham says: &ldquo;I think the relationships of our youth and seniors are more organic, less intentional.&nbsp; On the first Sunday night of advent, we simply very informally met, pulled the Christmas stuff down from the attic, and decorated together while conversing, eating cookies, drinking cocoa, etc.&nbsp; During that time, the kids were observed working alongside seniors.&nbsp; I heard conversations that involved what Christmas was like years ago and what the kids were expecting for Christmas this year.&nbsp; These were unprompted and natural.&nbsp; This, I think, more characterizes the nature of these kinds of relationships at SHBC.&rdquo;</p><p>So what can we learn?</p><p><strong>Ignore the packaging. </strong>There are few places a teenager dressed all in black with dyed hair, multiple piercings and tattoos can sit beside an 80 year old and both and have a common ex perience.&nbsp; Church should be one of these.</p><p>Life lessons.&nbsp; There is a lot to be learned from both generations. Sometimes the only interaction students have with senior adults is when they do a missions experience in a retirement or nursing home facility.&nbsp; There are plenty of vibrant seniors just waiting to share their stories and their lives with a younger generation.<br /></p><p><strong>Senior Adults can be your biggest asset</strong>. Houpt says, &ldquo;What I have found is that a bond has been made between the two ministries.&nbsp; The senior adults have become my greatest support.&nbsp; I believe this has happen because the youth  show they care instead of just talking about it&rdquo;.</p><p><strong>Friends on the other side.<em> </em></strong>One of the most disturbing facts about youth ministry in the high percentage of students that graduate youth group and graduate the church.&nbsp; Maybe with meaningful relationships with adults outside of the student ministry the transition to big church will be easier.</p> ]]></content:encoded>
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<title>4 keys to youth minsitry programming</title>
<pubDate>Tue, 8 Sep 2009 15:23:00 -0400</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ Programs, they may just be the one area that youth ministers are evaluated on the most. &nbsp;Be that self or evaluation by church members and parents. &nbsp;And maybe that is programming to a lot of people equals numbers and numbers equals success. &nbsp;Whether we like it or not we are judged by the success of our programs. &nbsp;Be that our Wednesday night meeting or disciple now weekends, which camp we attended, how many we took to the amusement park or how many kids participated in the chubby-bunny contest. &nbsp;So it we are going to be evaluated on the strength of our programs then we need to make sure we pay attention to them. <p>&nbsp;<strong>Purpose</strong>- Every program ought to have a purpose and that purpose should be tied to the process we have of developing students. &nbsp;We need to ask ourselves as youth leaders and ask the parents of our students, what is it that we want our students to &#8220;look like&#8221; when they graduate from the youth ministry? &nbsp;And not talking about how they look physically but what do they look like spiritually. &nbsp;IF our goal is to develop young adults that are in love with Jesus or well informed responsible followers of Christ, then our programming should then be geared toward reaching that goal. &nbsp;The programs we offer should be moving students toward that goal. It may require us to take a hard look at what we are currently doing and ask ourselves the tough questions related to why. &nbsp;I may also give us the freedom to tweak or toss programs that don&#8217;t help us accomplish that purpose. &nbsp;If the only reason we have for doing an event is that we always have&#8230;.then it may be time for that event to go. <p><strong>Age appropriate</strong>-Not everything we do has to be for the entire group. &nbsp;State law in Kentucky says you have to be sixteen to drive, fuge says you have to have finished the sixth grade to go to camp and the U.S. Constitution says you have to be 35 to be president. &nbsp;And as much as I may agree or disagree with those laws, there isn&#8217;t a whole lot I can do to change them. &nbsp;But somewhere along the way we have decided that every event we offer in ministry has to be something we can take our entire group to or we are not going to go. &nbsp;There are times when we need to all be together, that&#8217;s what families do. &nbsp;But there are things that our juniors and seniors can experience, lead and discuss that our middle schoolers aren&#8217;t ready for. &nbsp; And we need to honor those differences. <p><strong>Quality-</strong>There are very few reasons for our programs to be ill planned. &nbsp;I know a lot of us as youth pastor like to wing it. &nbsp;Hey, I&#8217;ve even been referred to as &#8220;the king of wing&#8221;. &nbsp;And there are times where winging it is necessary. &nbsp;But our students deserve programs, be they Bible studies, retreats, hayrides or whatever, that are quality. &nbsp;&#8220;Our&#8221; students will come to the events that we offer. &nbsp;But we need to make sure that the events we offer are of enough quality that they won&#8217;t be embarrassed to invite their friends to them. <p><strong>Relational</strong>-One of the beautiful things about youth ministry programs is that they offer a plethora of opportunities for <strong><em>us</em></strong> to build relationships with students. &nbsp;But, it also provides those same opportunities for the adults in our church to build relationship with our students. &nbsp;Chaperoning an event or helping with the Wednesday night meeting should not only be about crowd control. &nbsp;They provide excellent opportunities fo r relationship building. &nbsp;I still remember the time when I was in high school and our youth minister took Olan and Jewell Kerns to youth camp as chaperones. &nbsp;They were a senior adult couple in our church. &nbsp;They were ancient to us at the time (he had to be anyway-my dad had had him as a teacher!). &nbsp;But what a wonderful experience that was as the Kern&#8217;s got to know us and we got to know them. ]]></content:encoded>
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<title>Young adults&#8217; spirituality explored </title>
<pubDate>Fri, 4 Sep 2009 09:21:00 -0400</pubDate>
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This is a repost of a Baptist Press articlePosted on Sep 3, 2009 | by Kelly Shrout NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)--Young adults don't seem to have a problem with Jesus. In fact, they describe themselves as spi ...
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p dir="ltr">This is a repost of a <a title="bp" href="http://www.baptistpress.com/" target="_self">Baptist Press</a> article</p><blockquote style="margin-right: 0px" dir="ltr"><p><em /></p><p><em>Posted on Sep 3, 2009 | by Kelly Shrout </em></p><p><em>NASHVILLE, Tenn. (BP)--Young adults don't seem to have a problem with Jesus. In fact, they describe themselves as spiritual. But many of them are looking everywhere for spirituality except the church.<br /><br />Such topics were at the forefront of a "Connect Conference" sponsored by the Threads young adult initiative of LifeWay Christian Resources of the Southern Baptist Convention in Nashville, Tenn.<br /><br />Geared toward church leaders who work with young adults, the conference included sessions recapping recent statistics about why many 18-34-year-olds leave the church.<br /><br />Sam Rainer, who co-authored "Essential Church: Reclaiming a Generation of Dropouts" with his father Thom Rainer, LifeWay's president, offered reasons for what some speakers describe as a "mass exodus."<br /><br />"We find that the No. 1 reason young adults leave church is that they simply want a break from church," said Rainer, noting that 16 is the critical age when most students begin to drop out.<br /><br />"Our research shows that at around the age of 16 many of the net gains for attendance switch and become net losses," Rainer said. "Spiritually, the problem begins earlier than young adulthood."<br /><br />Rainer also offered solutions to the dropout problem.<br /><br />"Churches must build a sense of community," he said, citing data that indicates 83 percent of young adults who have been active in a small group or Sunday School class remain in the church after five years.<br /><br />"The younger generation goes to church because of the sense of purpose and mission," he said. "They value authenticity and depth."<br /><br />Thom Rainer, also a featured speaker at the Aug. 20-21 conference, outlined three components of depth as discussed in Essential Church.<br /><br />Depth begins with the pastor, he said. Depth also must come from small groups and Sunday School classes. Finally, depth must come from personal devotion and Bible study.<br /><br />The Rainers also mentioned three characteristics of individuals who stay in church: Studies show that they come from families who regularly discuss spiritual matters, serve together on a mission trip or service project, and pray together consistently.<br /><br />Ed Stetzer, director of LifeWay Research, reviewed data about how young adults view God and their beliefs about the church.<br /><br />Stetzer noted that 81 percent of 20-29-year-olds believe that God, a higher or supreme being, actually exists.<br /><br />He cautioned conference attendees about statistics that portray young adults as unspiritual.<br /><br />"Don't believe that young adults, even unchurched young adults, are not interested in spiritual things," Stetzer said, noting that they are looking outside of the church.<br /><br />According to a survey released in the book "Lost and Found" by Stetzer, Jason Hayes and Richie Stanley, 73 percent of unchurched 20- to 29-year-olds consider themselves "spiritual" because they want to know more about "God or a higher supreme being."<br /><br />Further, 77 percent of 20-somethings believe Christianity today is more about organized religion than about loving God and loving people.<br /><br />Yet this is a generation that God could use to change the course of history, said Jason Hayes, young adult ministry specialist at LifeWay.<br /><br />"For both churched and unchurched young adults, we have found that they recognize that their choices make a difference, and they want to improve the world around them," Hayes said. "As a result of this heightened sense of responsibility, we can help create a door for service and evangelism."<br /><br />Hayes said young adult leaders must teach the whole Bib le, foster discussion and answer the difficult questions of faith.<br /><br />"Offer quality, exegetical Bible teaching and sing theologically sound music that accurately depicts the Word of God," he counseled.<br /><br />Conference attendee John Oswald, assistant pastor at Grace Baptist Church in St. Louis where the young adult group has grown from four members to 30 in the past five years, attributed the increase to assimilating young adults into the life of the congregation.<br /><br />"We raised the level of expectation of our young adults and became intentional about how we ministered to them," Oswald said. "We offered opportunities to go deeper into Scripture and began a mentoring program that paired young adults with seniors in our congregation."<br /><br />Lee Saunders, associate pastor of Garden Oaks Baptist Church in Houston, credited the Connect Conference with offering information on the importance of dispelling the myths of the younger generation.<br /><br />"We must correct those myths within our churches and realize that young adults are not hard to reach," Saunders said. "We have to let the Holy Spirit guide us. God ultimately has to be in what we are doing. It's not about us, but it is about reaching a generation for Christ and offering spiritual growth and development."<br /><br />The Connect Conference included small-group discussions about leadership, the postmodern worldview and the importance of understanding the young adult context. The conference also offered a question-and-answer panel forum.<br />--30--<br />Kelly Shrout is the employee communications editor at LifeWay Christian Resources of the Southern Baptist Convention. For more information about the young adult ministry at LifeWay, visit www.threadsmedia.com.</em></p></blockquote> ]]></content:encoded>
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<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:57:00 -0400</pubDate>
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I was setting on the deck, enjoying the unexpected coolness of an August morning and this was the chapter God had for me today. 2 Corinthians 7:3b-4a "I have said before that you have such a place in ...
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <p dir="ltr">I was setting on the deck, enjoying the unexpected coolness of an August morning and this was the&nbsp;chapter God had for me today. </p><blockquote dir="ltr" style="margin-right: 0px"><p dir="ltr"><em>2 Corinthians 7:3b-4a "I have said before that you have such a place in our hearts that we would live or die with you. I have great confidence in you; I take great pride in you. I am greatly encouraged;"</em></p></blockquote><p dir="ltr">Of all days for this passage.&nbsp; It summed up all I was thinking through, processing&nbsp;and dealing with.&nbsp; It still amazes me, and I know it shouldn't, how God speaks right to where we are.&nbsp; </p><p dir="ltr">Today we take Jordan to Western Kentucky University.&nbsp; We have been through this before, 5 years ago we took Karen, and moved her into Cumberland College.</p><p dir="ltr">But today is different.&nbsp; Jordan is the youngest. He is not supposed to be at this point in life yet, there is much&nbsp;I&nbsp;want to tell him.&nbsp; I posted in June of this year <a title="enough" href="http://www.despisingnone.com/kbc/blogs/yb.nsf/dx/../dx/04072009095456AMWEBJBW.htm" target="_self">"Have we done enough"</a>&nbsp;with some of the thoughts on his graduating high school.&nbsp; But today....he begins the next step into becoming the man God wants him to be, and nothing will ever be the same.&nbsp; Oh I know, he'll be home every weekend.&nbsp;But it will be different, and it should be.&nbsp; Today he begins the offical journey to discover what I have known for a while, that he can make it without me; that he can figure out bed time and how to get up on his own and when to eat and study and play and do laundry.&nbsp; And how to&nbsp;make wise decisions,&nbsp;new friends and&nbsp;leave his mark on the world.&nbsp; </p><p dir="ltr">So as we load up the car in a couple of hours with your clothes, tv and the cornhole boards....Just know this Jordan Ball....You have a place in my heart, I have great confidence in you and am so proud of you.</p><p dir="ltr">&nbsp;</p> ]]></content:encoded>
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<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:24:00 -0400</pubDate>
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <em>I am preparing to teach some classes about youth ministry this fall and so I was at the playground tonight and I saw a young lady with two of her children and soon recognized her as a youth that was in the very first youth group I helped with many years ago. It was cool to talk with her and it made me think of some things I have learned about youth ministry and life----- since that time. I wrote some of these down and if you work with kids you will pick up on them and some you just had to be there!!!<br /> <br /> I have learned.............<br /> <br /> 1. Most Kids have enough people leaning and looking down on them -- they need more people to love on them<br /> <br /> 2. I wish I had loved the "unloveable" ones even more<br /> <br /> 3. I love to see how kids have grown up and what they are doing with their life<br /> <br /> 4. How much I hate the phrase" Jason I wish I'd listened to you"<br /> <br /> 5. That we need to teach them more about how to live and find out how to ignite their passion<br /> <br /> 6. I wish I'd hung out more--prayed with them more-- ate lunch at school more and attended less meetings about them<br /> <br /> 7. There are no such thing as a bad kid-- Just bad decisions<br /> <br /> 8.I wish I could have modeled a better life before them<br /> <br /> 9. Parents must be involved<br /> <br /> 10. I need to teach them to be part of the Kingdom not just their church<br /> <br /> 11. If I have 50 kids this year in group next year I better have 75<br /> <br /> 12. It's not about numbers -- It's about numbers<br /> <br /> 13. I don't remember the words of my enemies as much as the silence of my friends<br /> <br /> 14. I wish I could make friends of my "enemies"<br /> <br /> 15. Just because someone doesn't love you they way you think they should don&#8217;t mean they don&#8217;t love you with all they have.<br /> <br /> 16. I wonder what God is doing in the lives of all those folks we did mission work with. I should have kept up with them<br /> <br /> 17. That every night in a 2x4 bed--sleeping bag or sand in the sheets was well worth the time.<br /> <br /> 18. that I still laugh every time I think of passing Reeses cups between vans at 75<br /> <br /> 19. I have a lot of old mission trip t-shirts that I wish someone would turn into a quilt for me<br /> <br /> 20. I hate church politics<br /> <br /> 21. I still remember most kid&#8217;s names I worked with and still pray for them often<br /> <br /> 22. I cherish Ms. Betty and Dona and still haven't fessed up to them that it was Ryan Nunn and not me that stole the pizza in Oklahoma<br /> <br /> 23. When I screw up it is big time<br /> <br /> 24. I screw up allot<br /> <br /> 25. Who my friends are<br /> <br /> 26. I&#8217;m trying to learn who God is<br /> <br /> 27. Why some people aren't excited about 100 teens loose in the church<br /> <br /> 28. I miss people that I used to be on this journey with<br /> <br /> 29. One oh no erases 10,000 ata boys<br /> <br /> 30. Never tell a student to bring their fiddle when they play violin<br /> <br /> 31. It is cool seeing your students french braid children's hair on the beach until their fingers cramp because there is one more in line.<br /> <br /> 32. It is not about how hard you can be hit but how hard you can be hit and keep moving forward.<br /> <br /> 33. Dr Gentry and I didn't click in Old Testament class<br /> <br /> 34. Our culture is hard on our kids<br /> <br /> 35. God loves us<br /> <br /> 36. Rules get in the way of our relationships<br /> <br /> 37. Ryan and Mike should have went to bed!!!!<br /> <br /> 37A. As God as my witness I thought turkeys could fly!--Les Nessman<br /> <br /> 38. I have literally seen the hand of God through a brain surgeons hands<br /> <br /> 39. I should have taken a typing class-- I really shouldn't worry -- Let it be! LOL Thanks Brad<br /> <br /> 40. You should be good in high school because one day you will have your classmate's kids in your youth group<br /> <br /> 41. That I'm not so good in letting things go<br /> <br /> 42. Kids will rise to the bar you set for them<br /> <br /> 43. Papa John&#8217;s made a killing off my ministry<br /> <br /> 44.College kids get used to food on Tuesday night<br /> <br /> 45. Two out of three Durbin&#8217;s loving you aint bad!<br /> <br /> 46. You have to cheat to win at the flag football<br /> <br /> 47. I don't understand why God wanted me to help Him in any way<br /> <br /> 48. I am so thankful for Eric and Sherry Allen<br /> <br /> 49. "1st Priority" and "FCA" should be at 3:30 PM not 7:30 AM <br /> <br /> 50. God is good all the time!!!<br /> <br /> Maybe I have more but my ADD has kicked in. Let me know what you think! </em> <p><em>&nbsp;</em> <br />Jason is one of the faculty for <a href=http://www.kybaptist.org/supersaturday target=_self><span style="text-decoration:underline">Super Saturday</span></a> this year. &nbsp;He lives in Henderson County, Kentucky and has several years of youth minsitry experience. &nbsp;This is a repost of a note he posted on facebook on August 18, 2009. &nbsp;It is used with his permission. ]]></content:encoded>
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Originally posted at Lifeway.com Written by Sam S. Rainer III Many people realize that the church is losing people. What is not realized is that the vast majority of people drop out as students and ...
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<content:encoded><![CDATA[ &nbsp;Originally posted at <a href=www.lifeway.com target=_self><span style="text-decoration:underline">Lifeway.com</span></a>  <p>Written by Sam S. Rainer III  <p>Many people realize that the church is losing people. What is not realized is that the vast majority of people drop out as students and young adults. In fact, research reveals that seven out of 10 people who drop out of the church will do so between the ages of 18 and 22.  <p>This age group gives a variety of reasons for the departure: They wanted a break from church. They didn&#8217;t connect with the people in the church. They perceived existing church members as out of touch with current reality. The results boiled down to one simple reason: Church was not essential to them.  <p>Instead of finding meaning in the church, students and young adults are finding it in the culture around them. Some blame resides with the students who don&#8217;t like the answers the church gives, but churches have done a poor job of demonstrating for students how believers are salt and light of culture, the flavor and guide of society.  <p>Ultimately, church and culture don&#8217;t have to be mutually exclusive. The church should be the place where students learn how to interact with the culture without being swept into it. What are some practical ways churches and parents can help stem the tide of a young adult exodus? <br /> 1. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Talk about your faith. The young generation not only wants to see faith in action, they desire for their parents to have a conversation with them about why their faith is important. <br /> 2. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Give encouragement during life changes. Many dropouts we interviewed stated that a life change prompted their departure. One consistent way to help students through these life changes is to be a source of encouragement and support. <br /> 3. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Empower students to serve. The more students serve in the church, the higher the likelihood that they&#8217;ll stay in the church. Don&#8217;t wait until students reach the age of 18 to ask them to serve. Find creative ways to get all ages involved in serving. <br /> 4. &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Surround students with mature adult believers. The greater the number of adults directly involved in a student&#8217;s life, the higher the probability that he or she will remain in the church. Conversely, our research also found that if students have few adults involved in their lives, the likelihood they drop out of church is greater. The heart of the church dropout problem exists within a short four-year window. If the dropout problem is solved with students in this age group, then the church dropout problem in general is remedied. I&#8217;m confident that parents, family members, friends, and other church members can rally behind students, connect with them, and model Jesus&#8217; way of relating to the world.  <p>Additional Suggestions for Parents of High School Graduates  <ul> <li>Before your student leaves for college, help him research area churches with effective college ministries.  </li><li>Encourage your student to visit several churches with collegiate ministries. Ask her about his visit and how the church compares to her home church.  </li><li>Discuss the possibilities of your student moving his church membership while away from home for four years. If might help him stay connected instead of constantly feeling like a visitor in someone else&#8217;s church.  </li><li>Help your student try to find campus ministries to join in an effort to find other believers who will hopefully be connected to and active in a local church while away at college.  </li><li>If your church is not currently ministering to collegiates, volunteer to begin a college ministry to not only help your student stay connected to your church during the collegiate years, but to help them find connections in their college town where they go to school.  </li><li>A care package mi nistry from your church can help your student know that your church continues to care even when he is away. If your church doesn&#8217;t have this ministry, volunteer to get the names of all the college students and find church members to adopt a collegiate for the year. Those connections with church members will build trust and give your students people to turn to back home regarding prayer requests and needs. </li></ul>Sam S. Rainer III is pastor, co-author of Essential Church: Reclaiming a Generation of Dropouts (B&amp;H), and president of Rainer Research. This article was adapted from an article that appeared in the February 2009 issue of Homelife. The research quoted is from the LifeWay Research of 1,023 Protestants, conducted April and May 2007. Margin of error plus or minus 3 percentage points.  <p><strong>Related Articles:</strong>  ]]></content:encoded>
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